{"id":822,"date":"2011-01-25T11:21:02","date_gmt":"2011-01-25T15:21:02","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/www.musicalamerica.com\/mablogs\/?p=822"},"modified":"2011-10-20T23:25:24","modified_gmt":"2011-10-21T03:25:24","slug":"casual-musings-on-top-tens-and-greatness","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.musicalamerica.com\/mablogs\/?p=822","title":{"rendered":"Casual Musings on Top 10s and Greatness"},"content":{"rendered":"<p class=\"MsoNormal\" style=\"0in 0in 10pt;\"><span style=\"small;\"><span style=\"Calibri;\"><strong>By Alan Gilbert<\/strong><\/span><\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\" style=\"0in 0in 10pt;\"><span style=\"small;\"><span style=\"Calibri;\">I have followed Anthony Tommasini\u2019s recent series in <em>The New York Times<\/em> on the Top 10 composers with great interest, both because I was curious about what the final list would be, and also because it is reminiscent of one of my favorite parlor games that I have played for years with my fellow \u201cmuzoids\u201d (with thanks to Tom Morris for the term). Our rules are slightly different, however: we always limit ourselves to the Top Five, and we work with the premise that each time we return to the exercise, we have to introduce to the list at least one different composer. I like this fluid approach to something that, on at least a superficial level, sounds dogmatic. What becomes important in coming up with a new pantheon each time is an enthusiasm for music itself and, further, for the different criteria we use to measure greatness. <\/span><\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\" style=\"0in 0in 10pt;\"><span style=\"small;\"><span style=\"Calibri;\">After all, what is \u201cgreatness\u201d? I have often allowed myself a non-rigorous definition, <em>i.e., <\/em>\u201cyou know it when you see it.\u201d Admittedly, this immediately presents problems, since it relies on recognition as the determining factor, and throughout the history of music, how many composers can we think of who were not considered to be great until many years had passed? Does this mean that their music was not \u201cgreat\u201d until long after it was written?<\/span><\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\" style=\"0in 0in 10pt;\"><span style=\"small;\"><span style=\"Calibri;\">Perhaps time is an important element, though. Many would say that the ability to withstand the test of time is an essential aspect of great art. Further, I guess that I believe that great art often does have the capacity to speak across generations and cultural differences. <\/span><\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\" style=\"0in 0in 10pt;\"><span style=\"small;\"><span style=\"Calibri;\">I recently spoke about this subject with my good friend Marc Neikrug and, interestingly, he identified the attribute of profound ambition as being necessary for a composer to be truly great. He meant that great composers all share the desire and capacity to say something deep and important about our humanity. Beethoven had this most Shakespearean quality more than any other composer \u2014 every note he wrote was infused with an illuminating aspect. Delibes was less great than, say, Debussy, because his music doesn\u2019t achieve or even aspire to true profundity. <\/span><\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\" style=\"0in 0in 10pt;\">\n<div class=\"MsoNormal\" style=\"0in 0in 10pt;\"><span style=\"small;\"><span style=\"Calibri;\">I realize that, philosophically, these musings may carry very little weight, but they have been occupying my mind, and I thought I would share them.<\/span><\/span><\/div>\n<\/p>\n<p><div><span style=\"small;\"><\/span><\/div>\n<\/p>\n<p><span style=\"small;\"><span style=\"Calibri;\"><\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\" style=\"0in 0in 0pt;\"><span lang=\"SV\"><span style=\"Times New Roman;\">(For more information on Alan Gilbert and the New York Philharmonic, visit <\/span><a href=\"http:\/\/www.nyphil.org\/\"><span style=\"#0000ff;\">nyphil.org<\/span><\/a><span style=\"Times New Roman;\">.)<\/span><\/span><\/p>\n<p><div><\/div>\n<\/p>\n<p><div><span style=\"small;\"><\/span><\/div>\n<\/p>\n<p><span style=\"small;\"><span style=\"Calibri;\"><\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\" style=\"0in 0in 10pt;\">\u00a0<\/p>\n<p><br class=\"spacer_\" \/><\/p>\n<p><div><\/div>\n<\/p>\n<p><\/span><\/span><\/span><span style=\"small;\"><\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\" style=\"0in 0in 10pt;\">\u00a0<\/p>\n<p><br class=\"spacer_\" \/><\/p>\n<p><br class=\"spacer_\" \/><\/p>\n<p><\/span><\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\" style=\"0in 0in 10pt;\">\u00a0<\/p>\n<div id=\"wp_fb_like_button\" style=\"margin:5px 0;float:none;height:34px;\"><script src=\"http:\/\/connect.facebook.net\/en_US\/all.js#xfbml=1\"><\/script><fb:like href=\"https:\/\/www.musicalamerica.com\/mablogs\/?p=822\" send=\"false\" layout=\"standard\" width=\"450\" show_faces=\"false\" font=\"arial\" action=\"like\" colorscheme=\"light\"><\/fb:like><\/div>","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>By Alan Gilbert I have followed Anthony Tommasini\u2019s recent series in The New York Times on the Top 10 composers with great interest, both because I was curious about what the final list would be, and also because it is reminiscent of one of my favorite parlor games that I have played for years with [&hellip;]<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":14,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"closed","ping_status":"closed","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"footnotes":""},"categories":[100],"tags":[],"aioseo_notices":[],"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.musicalamerica.com\/mablogs\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts\/822"}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.musicalamerica.com\/mablogs\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.musicalamerica.com\/mablogs\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.musicalamerica.com\/mablogs\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/users\/14"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.musicalamerica.com\/mablogs\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Fcomments&post=822"}],"version-history":[{"count":1,"href":"https:\/\/www.musicalamerica.com\/mablogs\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts\/822\/revisions"}],"predecessor-version":[{"id":3034,"href":"https:\/\/www.musicalamerica.com\/mablogs\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts\/822\/revisions\/3034"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.musicalamerica.com\/mablogs\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Fmedia&parent=822"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.musicalamerica.com\/mablogs\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Fcategories&post=822"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.musicalamerica.com\/mablogs\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Ftags&post=822"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}